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Can EEG Tell If Telekinesis Is A Magician’s Trick?

November 13, 2011  |   Posted by :   |   Blog   |   8 Comments»

Can objects be moved by thought alone?  A dubious notion, eh?  So when the History Channel asked me to look at the brain waves of “a mentalist” I didn’t have much interest.  Back when I was in psychiatric training Uri Geller was at the Stanford Research Institute demonstrating New Physics and mind-over-matter with mental spoon-bending. In the intervening years, Uri Geller and his spoon bending was supposedly debunked as just a magician and his tricks.  See for instance which has a couple of good YouTube videos of Randi and Michael Schermer “debunking” Geller.  But the producer was persistent, saying had a mentalist who seemed adept, and they just wanted to see what was happening to the brain waves of this man at the moment he seems to be moving things with his mind; if we could monitor him, they would not mind what we demonstrated–or not.

I asked Bill Scott, who was working out of my office at the time, if he was willing to join me in this project.  It happened that he was using a new protocol that can look at  EEG frequencies in a very precise way and was eager to demonstrate its utility.  And so we met with the team from the History Channel’s Stan Lee’s Superhumans and mentalist Guy Bavli.  Bavli demonstrated a number of tricks which had me gasping–but I kept telling myself that he is a professional magician.  I did not expect what we found.

For the data collection, we chose one demonstration–moving a pen in a glass without touching it.  (You can see a video of a similar event on line.  The segment filmed in my office has not run yet, but should run soon and I will post a link when available).  For technical reasons, Bill took EEG data from the pre-frontal (forehead) areas on both sides.  Bill processed the data, and we took a look at it the following morning.

Bill and I were surprised to see an indication that when the pen moved there was a massive shift in the gamma region of the EEG–only on the left side.  Later, we analyzed the data more carefully and noted that at the same time there was even more elevation in the theta region of the EEG.  We believe that the gamma elevation is more impressive because, technically, these are much smaller wave forms that tend to rarely spike as high as we observed.

These are interesting findings which in no way prove that Guy Bavli moved the pen with mental force alone.  But we did demonstrate that there were very unusual EEG findings  occurring simultaneously with pen movement that we could not account for.   This seemed like something we should report to the scientific community for further study and validation.  I wrote up the findings and we presented a Poster at the International Society for Neurofeedback and Research this past September.  Below I have reproduced that poster and its content (below that).

ISNR 2011 "Telekinesis" EEG poster

Asymmetric Frontal Gamma & High Beta During a Telekinesis “Demonstration”


Thomas M. Brod, MD, DFAPA, Associate Clinical Professor of Psychiatry, Geffen UCLA School of  Medicine

William Scott, BS*

*Data acquisition and HHT processing.



Early this year we had the opportunity to observe EEG function during a demonstration of “telekinesis” with EEG monitoring for The History Channel.* We observed that coincident with the mentalist apparently moving a pen in a glass without touch (but not under control conditions), there was a sharp rise in left frontal high beta and gamma activity with no corresponding rise on the right. These non-blind observations will not convince skeptics (including ourselves), but they do open a path for open-minded rigorous evaluation of the phenomena that were observed.


We acquired two channels of EEG from sites FP1 and FP2 with the BrainMaster Atlantis amplifier, comparing resting eyes open condition (watching his breath) to the condition where the mentalist apparently moved a pen telekinetically. We were not using a 60Hz notch filter. We hypothesized that if he was using an electromagnetic current to pick up and move the metal in the pen, we would see a very large 60Hz signal from both sensors.


We utilized the Hilbert-Huang transform (HHT), a new method to construct a sharp and clean time-frequency spectrum of a non-linear and non-stationary signal. Using empirical mode decomposition while retaining intra-wave modulation makes it very suitable for quantitative EEG analysis; also, HHT has excellent potential for clinical EEG neurofeedback.



* It is expected to run on The History Channel’s Stan Lee’s Superheroes.


We applied the HHT to both conditional data sets. We used Microsoft Excel to graph the time-frequency data.  The HHT is dynamic, working best on fast changing signals like gamma.  Another advantage to the HHT is that we do not need to arbitrarily pick a frequency range for each band,for example “Gamma = 38-43Hz.  Here, Gamma was 38-54 Hz.



Baseline frequency bands (empirically derived, HHT) were highly symmetrical at faster frequencies

A post hoc analysis of the mentalist’s Hilbert-Huang Transform (HHT) data and revealed 8 distinct frequency bands (for clarity we have not shown the three lowest bands).  The range of each band was obtained by taking the median + and – ½ the standard deviation frequency at each point in the wave.

Frequency Analysis "Telekinesis Demonstration"


This is the control condition where the mentalist was watching his breath. We are graphing Gamma amplitude (intensity) against time.

“Mentally” moving the pen seems to correlate with Left Frontal activation.

Here we see the Gamma frequencies deviating both times the pen moved (lift and drop back). The observed  pen began to move and lift at sample period 5,753 and dropped back into the  glass at 13,521.  Observe the left/right asymmetry.


High Beta increased the most of his frequencies. His high beta did not change dramatically when the pen dropped into the glass, but left/right asymmetry persisted.

Here we see some Theta increasing at point 5345 which proceeds the bursts of high beta and gamma.


These data have documented an asymmetrical change in brainwave function of the mentalist as he appeared to move a pen into a glass without touching it. Artifacts from an electromagnetic generator or from physical movement should have shown up equally in both the left and right EEG channels.


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8 Comments for this entry

  • Nathaniel Beams

    December 10th, 2011 on 4:59 am

    I saw this episode and I was also very skeptical. Yet there was one demonstration that i found pretty amazing that you didn’t mention. It;s when he pushed the wooden paint stiring utencile that rested on a plastic glue stick or something. Magnets could’t be used either could some sort of thin wire. It amazed me. Couple that with the brain scans and its very hard to dismiss. I wish the whole show was devoted to this man. It has me still thinking about it many days later. I wish someone like a Chris Angel would comment. I would very much like to hear what he would have to say.

  • roberto preatoni

    June 19th, 2012 on 1:18 pm

    C’mon gentlemen, i am a magician and I really laughed when i saw the way that guy was fooling you. I could reply step by step what he did without pretending to be superhuman. Beside, what’s the sense of.checking his brainwaves when it is obvious he is using just old school magic tricks. This is no science, it’s just scientists’ failure and inadequacy of checking pro-magicians

  • liron

    July 30th, 2012 on 1:51 pm

    I’ve watched the show a few days ago and started looking for more information about Guy Bavli and telekinesis. What I don’t understand is why there aren’t more studies about it and why don’t they make more tests with this man who already agreed to be tested.
    The studies and tests are way more interesting than a magic show.

  • Rhody Lugo

    August 28th, 2012 on 6:16 pm

    I just saw the mentioned show, and quite frankly, that seemed to me that that wasn’t given enough attention. As the EEG showed an unusual activity, you should at least made him to do somthing more convincing, maybe try to move somthing inside a transparent box of acrylic or something

  • Joshua K.

    August 26th, 2013 on 7:21 pm

    I saw the episode as well. When Guy had the host of the show close his eyes and “without touching” him, Guy mysteriously felt six touches, right? Wrong. When he demonstrated to the host what he was doing after the host opened his eyes, his hand movements changed. Whereas before he was moving his hands to the *side* of the hosts hands, he demonstrated to the host that his own hands never got near the host’s. I rewound because I wanted to be sure. And sure enough, I even saw him touch the host’s hand a couple times, even though he was very deft.

    I watched him do the same trick on a Japanese game show, and it was the same. So there is no question the guy is an illusionist. But neither does that disqualify his other claims, because hey, a Guy’s gotta make a living, right?

    Personally, I think telekinesis and telepathy both are possible. I don’t, however, necessarily believe that Guy Bavli is capable of either – though I concede as well that I could be wrong. Call me an agnostic….because I am, of course.

  • Shirak

    September 11th, 2013 on 3:18 pm

    And when you do give them evidence because it does not fit their reality outlook. Immediately they will dismiss it without even considering, measuring or trying to duplicate the results themselves. This is the prison they have build for themselves a reality that is bound by preconceived notions that all is understood and explainable by their reference frame.

  • Prtayush

    April 17th, 2014 on 10:01 pm

    Hahaha wana laugh at u guys . . . espescially the 1 who said he was a magician . its all real telekinesis exist in nature i have heard my grandparents talk about it and all those indians shld beleive though.

  • Damon

    June 16th, 2014 on 9:36 pm

    Just because science cannot measure or test PK or TK, does not mean that it does not exist. Many things remain unexplained throughout what humans believe to be as reality, but that does not prove the validity of one’s statements or actions based on minimal testing. While I agree that he could very well be a fraud, I must also state that he could very well have found the key in being able to utilize a portion or thought process that others cannot to create the correct conditions for a strange phenomena to occur. Even despite his abilities to fool people using magic tricks or illusions, he is capable of causing medical/ scientific machinery to register changes in his brain waves. While those can easily be duplicated with just sheer concentration, does that not give grounds to the possibility of such a phenomena occurring again?
    Further proof can be offered by many traditional beliefs such as the application of CHI to martial arts. While you cannot PROVE that it is happening, it is happening… or I should say, while you cannot prove that it can be done, does not mean that it is being done. The problem is not the skepticism or the proof of ones actions, but the belief behind the actions they are taking, or in this case causing. Can you honestly tell me that it isn’t possible? And can you honestly tell me that it is? No, because there is no way of measuring something outside the scope of what humans believe are the only sense that can be applied to the scientific method. You can read countless articles, books, magazines, clips and watch videos, demonstrations, and experiments, but neither offer much validity for either conclusion. What offers the conclusion is one’s own personal experience, the ability to sense them with your five senses or otherwise your other abilities that may lie latent in your brain. Parapsychology can neither prove nor disprove the ability to speak to someone using your mind or hear someone’s thoughts in the same way, but twins are believed to be capable of doing it. And those that exercise the ability under different circumstances have been known to achieve strange feats.
    My questions for Guy Bavli are: Can you move heavier objects than those that weigh less than a wine glass, pen, paint stirrer, or piece of metal? Can you move an object of someone else’s choice without getting to touch it? Can you teach others how to do it? Can you move a liquid? Can you manipulate air flow?
    These questions- if tested under the correct conditions (ie; counter fraudulent conditions), would then add important data to the questions of whether or not humans can begin to augment mental capabilities just by concentrating on them.
    Personally, I do believe it is possible, just based on the experiments I have done at home under close observation of second and third party watchers, who were also capable of the same or similar feats once given directions and simple concepts to follow. Does it make it real? No. Does it make it possible to duplicate? Yes. Are these abilities possible to attain using concentration or meditative states? Absolutely. Why else would there be such a small number of people proclaiming to do so.
    Lastly, Chris Angel is not a fraud. He is an illusionist. Hence his remarkable feats of walking on water and levitating great distances. If you do the research, try to replicate the conditions on your own, and think for yourselves, you can absolutely find the answers to your questions, however, the answers will be different for each person based on internal and external stimuli and beliefs. The same is also proven with hypnosis. The only reason it works for some and doesn’t for others, is because one will either believe with high expectation that they will be hypnotized, and vice verse for those who “cannot” be hypnotized.